Dec 19, 2020
The Success Principles of Speaking
James Taylor interviews Walter Bond and they talked about The Success Principles of Speaking
In today's episode Walter Bond talk about The Success Principles of Speaking.
Former NBA star Walter Bond is a speaker who motivates people through his life story of trials and triumphs. Growing up in Chicago, he always dreamed of playing in the NBA. Though he lacked the natural athletic gifts of many of his peers, through hard work, parental encouragement, and discipline, he achieved his dream and had an eight-year professional playing career with the Dallas Mavericks, Utah Jazz, and Detroit Pistons. He later applied the same principles he'd used as a pro-basketball player to achieve great success off the court as a speaker, entrepreneur, and financial analyst. A powerful keynote speaker, in 2015 Walter was inducted into the National Speakers Association Speaker Hall of Fame.
What we cover:
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Why every speaker needs a mentor
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The fundamentals of the speaking business
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Being an impact player
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James Taylor
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Hey there, it's James Taylor and I'm delighted today to be joined by Walter Bond. former NBA star water bond is a speaker who motivates people through his life story of trials and triumphs. Growing up in Chicago you always dreamed of playing in the NBA. Though he like the natural athletic gifts of many of his peers through hard work parental encouragement and discipline. He achieved his dream and had an eight year professional Playing career with the Dallas Mavericks, Utah Jazz and Detroit Pistons. He later applying the same principles he'd use as a pro basketball player to achieve great success off the court as a speaker, entrepreneur and financial analyst, a powerful keynote speaker in 2015, Walter was inducted in the National Speakers Association speaker Hall of Fame. And it's my great pleasure to have Walter join us today. So welcome Walter
Walter Bond
guys, James and I know you're jealous. You would love my last
night.
James Taylor
I wouldn't you knew, I think I think you need to adopt me you need
to speak your wife about adopting me so I can I can get this name
change thing happened. So it could be James Bond. Finally,
Walter Bond
well, my wife loves infants. So if you are willing to put on a
diaper, we
James Taylor
could do that. So share with me what's going on in your world just
now.
Walter Bond
You know nothing just busy. I love speaking you know, I love the
lifestyle just got done playing around the golf and I'm a golf
tomorrow. And so it's pretty cool to go around the world and
motivate people and do coaching and training and consulting and,
and also have a balanced life where you can enjoy life. So today I
just played golf, you know, and I might play golf tomorrow. I just
want to motivate you know, all speakers. You know, I think as you
grow your business, this is a $6 billion industry, many people
think and I think that if you have a message, that you have a
passion for speaking and changing lives and empowering people, you
got to get focused, and you got to go forward and you got to build
it, because people need to hear from
James Taylor
us. Now I mentioned earlier you have this background as a as a pro
athlete. When did the speaking part of you we always interested in
being a speaker? Or was it something you kind of came to later on
in life?
Walter Bond
Absolutely. You know, a lot of people don't know this. When I was
young, I knew I was going to speak as a career. I didn't know how
though I thought I might be a comedian might be a preacher, Pastor,
maybe a politician. And when I played for the Dallas Mavericks,
Steve Harvey is very popular here in America, kind of hung out with
this. And he had a comedy club in Dallas. And I talked, I talked
him into let me go up on his comedy club stage. And I started
motivating people in the comedy club. And I knew that although I
use humor, now, I don't know if we're gonna get a chance to talk
about this today. Because humor is a big part of engaging your
audience. It taught me what I wasn't, you know, and I'm not a
comedian, but I use humor. And so I want to say a special shout out
to Steve Harvey because he helped me figure out what I was, which
got me one step closer to my true gifts and who I really was as a
as a motivator.
James Taylor
So in those early days of you, moving from the world of pro sports
into speaking and now we do speak full time all around the world.
Who are those mentors that you had as a speaker? Well, this
particular speakers it can take you under their wing, or whether
maybe people you looked at from afar, and you said I want to get to
where they are in their speaking career?
Walter Bond
Well, you know, I think is wise to have mentors. You know, I think
that anyone who doesn't have a mentor or a coach is basically an
idiot, you know, if you really think about it, because when you
have a mentor, that's been where you're trying to go, they can save
you time, they can save you money, they can save you anguish and
frustration. They collapse timeframes and my mentors, I joined the
National Speakers Association, and I had mentors like Keith
Harrell, Mr. super fantastic. I had guys like Willie jolly Tony
Williamson, not Tony Williamson, but Desi Williamson, Mr. Impact,
and I've just had some amazing mentors early on. And the same thing
I did in sports. I mean, you kind of looked up to NBA players. You
idolize them. You dreamed about being around them. And being a
Chicago kid. When I got in high school, I got a chance to start,
you know, playing basketball with NBA players and that mentoring
landed me in the NBA. So when I joined the National Speakers
Association I understood the power of mentorship. I understood I
understood the power of confidence, I understood the power of
knowing your gift, you know, and I speak in business, a lot of
people are playing out of position, you know, what do I mean by
that, you know, you can be a keynote speaker in this business, you
can be a trainer, you can be a consultant, you can be a
facilitator, I think it's so important for speakers to not play out
of position. And in order to do that, you have to understand how
you're wired, you have to understand what your gifting is. And I
learned that in sports, because if you play out a position, you're
never going to look your best. And I think in this training and
development world, as a speaker, we have to know our position. So
we always look our best.
James Taylor
Now, I know you overcame a lot of adversity as well. I know my
family, our family, we either we the guys either end up as boxes,
or musicians, that was the two, the two rooms for it, our family,
and I ended up going more in the music side and the stage, so but
if anyone's watching this just now and they may be listening to it,
well, that's all fine with you, you know, your top NBA player must
be really easy for you, you know, to kind of because you're hadn't
had a profile to transition. What do you say to that person who
watching just now that is maybe that 1920 year old kid that's
watching this, and thinks I want to kind of be up there, I want to
be in that stage. But it was hard for me to be able to do it
because it feels so far away. At the moment,
Walter Bond
we don't want you you have to pay your dues and the play in the
league like the NBA. I mean, literally, you're one of the top
basketball players in the world. And what I didn't realize at the
time, in my pursuit of the NBA, I was learning success principles.
You know, I was learning success fundamentals, you know, how to how
to be an impact player. Now, think about that, to play an NBA, you
must be an impact player. And as a Hall of Fame speaker, every time
I get a microphone, I want to be an impact player for my client and
my audience. And so understanding the importance of having good
habits and good rituals, you know, knowing that success is a team
sport, so I have to have a good team around me. You know, my wife
is my business partner and my wife has helped me build it. This is
not all me, you know, we have tons of vendors and, and people that
we have on retainer and, and I might get all the credit, and I
might get all the standing ovations. But it's not just me, I have a
whole team of people behind me. So just those three keys, for
example, I learned in sports, how to be an impact player, the
mindset, oh, my goodness, mindset, you know, playing in the NBA,
you got to have a mindset. You know, people ask me, wow, you played
against Michael Jordan, what was that? Like? I was like, Well, I
think Michael Jordan's one of the best best basketball players
ever. But I tried to kick his butt when I played against Michael
Jordan, and people look at me in amazement, as if, really, how dare
you? And I'm like, Look, if I don't think that way, am I qualified
to play an NBA. So a lot of people in the speaking business don't
even have the right mindset. You know, when you approach this
business, you have to have confidence that I do have a message, I
do have some content, I do have some information. But I can help
you make more money, I can help you grow your business, I can help
save your marriage, I can make you a better parent. I can inspire
kids, whatever your message is, whatever your heart is, whatever
your passion is, it begins with mindset. And in fact, in terms of
making money, my mindset was, if I play in the NBA, and worked out
four hours a day, and I made x, you know, in terms of money, as a
business guy, I can work eight hours a day, so I should make more
money in business and I didn't sports. That's simple mindset.
James, people looked at me like I was crazy. Like, once you're an
NBA player, like no, in three years, I doubled my MBA income
mindset. So I tell us, all of my clients that we coach, I try to
challenge everyone listening today. Do you ever think about what
you think about, you know, it's kind of a deep statement. And until
we get to right mindset, you're not going to ever be the best in
the world at what you do. And many people destroy and defeat
themselves. And it begins and ends with mindset. So when I think
about it, I was being prepared to be a Hall of Fame speaker during
my basketball career. And when it ended, I sat down and just kind
of thought about all of the success principles that I learned
directly through successes and through failure. You know, we always
hear about failing forward, oh, my goodness, I fell forward in this
business. I knew nothing about the speaking business. But I had the
courage to try. I got the right mentors. When I make mistakes, I
was accountable. That was another lesson I learned in sports, being
able to say my fault. My bad, is how you win in sports. I think
that's how you win in life. That's how you win in business. What
are you good at right now as a speaker, how good is your marketing?
How good are you on the platform? I mean, the ability to have an
honest self assessment is the genesis for any of us to reach our
potential. So sorry to be long winded. But when I think about what
sports did for me, and overcoming adversity, my goodness, nothing
in my background said I should have made the NBA and I did not have
an MBA. pedigree and I made it anyway. So that's the core my
message that even if your situation doesn't look like it, you still
can make
James Taylor
one of the things I find that has that relationship between sports
and professional speaking is that I know some of my friends are
they're involved in sports professionally and they video every
single thing they do. And that video is then shared with their
coach with their team and their their analyzing after their their
work their plays, the things that are done they're really looking
at in detail now as speakers when you're when you're going up there
guilt delivering even when you were starting, perhaps when you were
going up there delivering your kids, will you then kind of doing
using that same mindset that you had as a professional looking back
at those videos like ah that you know, I should have gone there at
that point, you know, I I you know, drop ball at that point I
should have been thinking about they are we you able to transition
and use some of those same same techniques.
Walter Bond
Let me tell you something, I knew what it took to be a Hall of Fame
speaker before I begin, and here's what I did. First, I asked
around, who are the top motivational speakers on the planet. Okay,
I didn't want to just hear about the top motivational speakers in
America or in my region, I wanted to know who's the best in the
world, because that's how I saw the NBA. And so I heard about
names, you know, Zig Ziglar, Les Brown, Lou Holtz, Jim Rohn, and I
got all their videos, James. And just like I did in basketball, I
watch a game finger. Before I began my speaking business, I watch
Game film, on the top speakers on the planet, I set my wife down,
and I said they were gonna be okay. She says how I said, I've
already dissected the two key fundamentals of being a Hall of Fame
speaker, and here they are, you have to be very engaging and
entertaining. And you have to give your audience great information
is that simple. It's that easy. It's that focus. So anyone
listening today, if you can become very entertaining and dynamic on
that platform, if you can give your audience great information, you
too, can become a dynamic speaker going around the globe making big
money. Why? Because I studied my industry, my father taught me to
pay attention by paying attention. I knew before I begin what it
took. And here's what happened. Once I started, I began to watch me
speak. And I was very hard on myself, because I saw what a Hall of
Fame speaker look like already, but I did my homework and my
research. And I saw the gap. You know, when I first started
speaking, I saw who I was at the time, but I had the vision of what
it meant to be great on the platform. You know, when I grew up
playing basketball as a kid, I had a vision of what Michael Jordan
look like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, the greatest basketball
players in the world. And when I was in high school in college, I
had to close the gap until I was good enough to play with them. So
when I start the speaking business, I got on the fast track,
because one I had mentors to I had the vision of what great
speakers look like, I knew the fundamentals of what they actually
executed on the platform. And I had an honest self assessment with
me, who was I, at that moment when I begin, and every year I get
bigger, stronger and faster. Every year, I close the gap. And
honestly, when I got inducted into the Hall of Fame, I remember I
was sitting there with my tuxedo, my wife and kids are around, and
I was called. And people came up to me and Whoa, whoa, aren't you
excited? Oh my God, if I were you, I'd be so excited. And I calmly
said, You know, I am excited. In fact, I'm thrilled. But I planned
on being here the whole time. You know, me being here today was not
a surprise to me. I planned on being here the first day I grabbed a
microphone. Why? Because I knew what it took to be a great speaker.
I was honest with myself in the beginning. And I was hard on
myself. And I was able to close the gap and my team through the
year. So any speakers out there today, go and find your favorite
speaker doesn't have to be me. It could be anyone and go get the
vision of what a great speaker looks like. We do it in sports. I
mean, we know what a great tennis player looks like, what they do,
we know what a great golfer does, why not study the speaking
business and forgot what the great speakers do. You find your own
favorite, it might not be anyone I've never heard of, but you study
them. Okay. And the next time you speak, record yourself, and then
study you and figure out the gap and get obsessed with closing the
gap. And in no time you'll agree with me that becoming a Hall of
Fame speaker in demand is relatively easy, if we know how to be
productive, and I learned all that James by being an NBA
ballplayer
James Taylor
and I mean, that's an amazing just gonna break down as you were
talking through that having that and use that word vision. That
also I wonder then, you know, I know a lot of musicians do this
great music stars. I know a lot of great sports people use this
being having very strong sense of using visualization to kind of
visualize themselves making that play on that stage. You know,
doing that thing. Did you use some of those same techniques as well
and it terms when it came to your speaking Do you use did you use
visualizations to see yourself at that point in your speaking and
also to, to embody it to know what that felt like to be be at that
level in your in what you were doing in your craft?
Walter Bond
You know what this is? That's a great question. And I'm sitting
there thinking about it in real time, I did that in sports, I
visualize myself having a great game, every game before the game
started. But to be honest with you, I don't do it as a speaker. And
here's the difference. In sports, you have competition, you have
people on that court trying to stop you from having these great
games. And sometimes they succeeded. If I did not have a great game
every time I play. But when I'm on a platform, I'm on that court
all by myself. There's no one on that court trying to stop me from
being great. And I have such a command of my message, I understand
the key to platform skills. And as far as I'm concerned, it's
already done this, nobody's gonna stop me and defend me, or make it
difficult for me to deliver a great keynote. So to be honest, I
don't have to visualize the keynote, because I already know who I
am. And one thing I learned about sports is having ultimate
confidence. I believe I'm one of the greatest platform speakers in
the world. And so when I go on that platform, I'm so focused on
just delivering on what I believe about myself. And that goes back
to mindset. You know, a lot of times if you struggle with
confidence, or if you don't understand how important it is to have,
you know, strong self esteem, and understand who you are and how
you deliver, you know, why? How could you go on the platform in
front of 3000 strangers and be great. And I think that mindset that
I have, doesn't require me to visualize that keynote, because I
already know. And all I have to do is show up. And when I show up,
it's just happens, because that's who I am. It's not a rehearsal.
It's not a performance. This is me. And so when they introduced me,
ladies and gentlemen, you know, introducing keynote speaker Walter
bond, you know, I'm just gonna show up and do me. And so I think
that's the kind of confidence in the command that I know I teach my
speakers or my speaking program, that you just show up and you be
you. Which means if you want to grow a business, here's what you
have to do. You have to first grow you, we have to grow internally.
My question is, how many books have you read? How many speakers
have you studied? How many kilos Have you given? You know, what my
first fee? Was this, what you got? I spoke anywhere for any amount
of money, anytime. I don't even focus on money in the beginning.
Because I knew I was in a liquid lucrative industry. All I had to
do was get good. I went anywhere Rotary Clubs, high schools,
churches, you know, I spoke to funeral directors before. I just
needed touches, I needed stage time. Yeah, I needed the opportunity
to work on my gift and my craft, because I knew I had to close this
gap. Because I already knew what it meant to be great
James Taylor
in the sports we often do here like tennis players drills during
drills and and that's what they use in order to bridge that gap
between where they are now and where they want to go. What are the
things that you mentioned, I just stage time as can one of those
things kind of one of the things that speakers need to be doing on
a daily, weekly basis to be advancing? There's two things you spoke
about, which was the improving the entertainment that that part of
what they do and being an entertaining keynote speaker, and also
having great information because that requires time and effort to
kind of put that together as well?
Walter Bond
Well, there's a lot to witness a whole lot more than I can answer,
you know, a 30 minute interview, but the crux of it is you have to
focus on becoming a true pro in your industry, which is all
encompassing. I mean, to play an NBA you have to be a great
basketball player, but you also have to be in great physical shape.
You have to have an agent, which is your business partner, you have
to be able to find the right opportunities in the right situations.
You have to market yourself you have to create your brand. But most
importantly, you have to create your niche. You know, a lot of
speakers haven't created a niche. Any smart business person creates
a niche. So we've come up with a concept called power speaker.
Okay, so all bureaus and people in the industry know me as a power
speaker. I'm the perfect speaker to open a closure conference. I
just spoke in Turkey to a soccer team. And the soccer president
hired me after watching some YouTube videos. And he says, You know
what, I want to hire the number one motivational speaker in the
world to speak to my team. And guess what, when he did his Google
search, some of my marketing said I'm the number one motivational
speaker in the world. And by him doing a Google search on some
texts that I had on our website, he found me and bought into that
I'm the number one motivational speaker in the world. whether it's
true or not, I don't know who's the judge, but I've been able to
learn how to market we call it building your mousetrap. We had to
learn how to sell I got on the phone James and I called 25 people a
day every single day asking them To buy, if nothing happens in
business into something sold business people, let me tell you this,
stop seeing yourself as a speaker. If you see yourself as a
speaker, you're gonna miss the whole ballgame. You're a business
person. That's what we need to see ourselves. And I'm a business
person, the product that I sell is motivation, inspiration, content
on how to grow your business, but I'm a business person at my core.
And so what do business people do? They market, they sell, they
build relationships, they get referrals, okay. And if you see
yourself as a business person, that alone will change your business
as a speaker, most speakers, they see themselves as speakers. So
all they think about through today is speaking, how shallow, okay,
you got to have a mindset shift, and say, You know what, I'm a
business person. So start reading business books. And that'll give
you a greater impact. When you go and speak to your audience. Every
time you speak, that should lead to your next three gigs. So if I
do 100 events a year, okay. And if I'm absolutely amazing on stage,
that alone will provide energy for my business. And so a lot of
times speakers are looking for their next gig, and not maximizing
the gig they're doing today. Yeah, every time you speak, that
should lead to your next three events.
James Taylor
That's it, I was talking to another great speaker the other day,
Frederick horn in Singapore. And he was saying that he said, until
you're at the point where you're getting out there, and every time
you give a speech, you're getting at least two other gigs on the
back of it, you still you continue to keep working on that craft,
because you're trying to get because that's it, even if you just do
that part, and you're just getting out there working every year
just builds upon itself. And it's just like, it's like, you know,
your financial background. compound. Interest is like compound
interest. And that way continually builds. As you went on, you're
speaking your journey as a speaker, can you talk about one aha
moment, one, maybe definitive point in your career when you went,
oh, maybe that's the direction I want to go with, or this is the
kind of audience I want to speak to, this is really what I care
about. And the message I want to put out into the world and leave a
legacy around?
Walter Bond
Well, you know, the AHA that I've had recently, is really
understanding that a lot of speakers chase dates. Okay, and what I
mean by that, you know, they just chase dates, and I was guilty of
that for a long time. You know, my April looks good. Oh, my may is
bad. Oh, my July is jam packed, oh, my God, my August is empty. You
know, I did that for a long time, I realized that's a shallow
business. That's not a smart business to build. And so I realized
that I need to become a business person and build a business. And
unless you look at it, that way, you're going to struggle. And so
we have a coaching program. Now, we're hiring trainers, we're
building scale. And I think smart speakers are focused on building
something that they can sell one day, you know, and if you look at
it, that way, you have a totally different approach than just
looking for gigs. You know, because we know a lot of speakers and
some of my mentors are guilty of this. All they did was chase
dates, and when they died, their business died. Because you have
people that that have, you know, built legacies, you know, Stephen
Covey, I mean, his business didn't die with him, okay? You, we can
go down the list that if your business dies with you, you didn't
build a business, you're just speaking and making transactions,
okay. And so for me, that was my aha, I want to leave a legacy. I
want to build a company, my wife and I that can live on beyond us
that our kids can run one day, and you know, this content is real,
it's timeless, you know, how to win friends and influence people,
you know, the author of that book that 1954, but people are still
buying that book, okay? If you don't know who I'm talking about
what I'm talking about, shame on you. And that's the, that's the
avatar I'm looking at, you know, I want this business to leave a
legacy that's going to be functioning after I die. after I'm dead
and gone. I want our company our business to still flourish. So
that's my aha. And unfortunately, my mentors, in a large part
taught me to chase states, okay, and not to blame them. But that's
what I did for a long time. And then I began to read books myself
and, and grow them a tour, and always want more. That's one thing
about me, I never arrived, I just always want a little bit more.
You know, that's after you get into the Hall of Fame. And after
you're very confident that you're going to do 80 to 100 events a
year. What is more, you know, to me more is a training division
where you hire trainers to deliver your content. It's not about
Walter bond, it's about the content. And that's my aha for just, ya
know, if if you want you to be the star, that's the wrong way to
look at it, you know, and that's, that's what a lot of keynote
speakers do. The content should be the star and the content is the
Star, that's a little bit of a clue for all of us, but how we could
build a business that can live on after us.
James Taylor
So took my content as we start to finish up here some quickfire
questions for you water. If there is one book that you were to
recommend not one of your own books, a book you would recommend to
maybe an aspiring speaker or someone that's just going to getting
started in the world of speaking. What would that book be
Walter Bond
the book I just read. And hopefully this applies to most people, I
read a book called traction. Okay, it was written by a guy named
Gino wickman. And I believe he's a member of NSA, I'm not sure
about this. But I spoke at a conference and a very successful
executive came up to me when I was done. And he said, You know
what, you ought to go read a book traction. And he says, everything
you're saying, is in this book traction. Now, Gino wickman. And his
team is running an international consulting firm. And so for me to
be a former NBA player, and instinctively just from growing my own
business and having exposure to some of the top CEOs in the world,
and basically saying the same exact things out of my mouth, that a
top consulting firm, you know, is saying and teaching the clients,
you know, for me, that was my graduation, and I'm no longer an
athlete, okay, now I'm a true Business Resource, and I get it. And
I've been able to transform myself into a true Business Resource.
That's what I'm telling you about the confidence when you go on a
stage, like, Look, I have something for my audience, and I need
them to get this so they can go and have more, be more and do more.
And if you have that kind of command of your message, and kind of
confidence that your audience needs what you're talking about. You
don't have to worry about chasing dates, those days are going to
start chasing you. But if you're not having impact, okay? All
speakers should be impact players. All coaches should be impact
players. Okay? If you get paid 5000 and you go out and not make an
impact, do you deserve another gig? Do you deserve another day? I
mean, we see car accidents. You know, sometimes you see little
fender benders, right? People get out the car, a little annoyed,
but they look at the car, no damage was done. The other person
looks at their car, no damage was done. And they both agree that
Hey, no harm, no foul, there was no impact. Now, you realize how
many speakers out here, I just have a little fender bender with
their audience. And they leave the ballroom and had no impact on
people, not to me, You don't deserve more dates. But sometimes on
that highway, and we see that collision. And you say to yourself,
as you look over, like, wow, I wonder if somebody died in an
accident. I want if somebody was killed, look how that car was
mangled up. Now imagine if you leave a ballroom. And all of a
sudden, 1000 people were so impacted by your message that that old
self dies. And all of a sudden a new creation was born that day,
because of something you said that was an aha for them that you
have such an impact. And they're gonna go back and change their
marketing strategy. They're gonna go back and change their culture,
they're gonna change their sales strategy. I heard a speaker today,
and you know what off, I will never leave the same. I will never
coach the same, I will never sell the same. I will never market the
same. I mean, just be honest, Tony Robbins is having that kind of
impact. That's why he's having his success. So that's my message
for all speakers. Are you having a little tiny fender benders with
your audience? Are you having a head on collision, and when they
leave that ballroom, they are shook, because they realize that man
I heard from a man today, and I will never be the same. I heard
from a woman today. And based on that message, oh, my goodness, I
will never look at leadership again. I'm gonna be a better father,
I'm gonna be a better husband, I'm gonna be a better mother, I'm
gonna be a better CEO, because I heard a man today in that
ballroom. And I want more. And that's the kind of passion and
delivery that I think great speakers need to expire to give. And
until we're having that kind of impact that head on collision with
our audience. I don't think we deserve more dates. But if you look
at a speaker's calendar, when it's busy, that means they've had
impact on the audience. And so my challenge today, as we wrap up,
as you say, is is our speaking industry about having this minor
fender bender, our should we have major impact on our audience, and
I'm sure we all know the writing.
James Taylor
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for your time. Today is an absolute
pleasure speaking to you. I hope at some point you get a chance to
come over here where I'm speaking from you today from Scotland. I
have 100 golf courses within an hour's drive. St. Andrew Andrews
Carnoustie Gleneagles. They're all there on our doorstep. So I
invite you to come over here and join us some time has gone for a
game of golf. Now,
Walter Bond
here's a funny thing the golf community I live in which was
afforded through speaking. I mean, we have nine billionaires in our
golf community, and it's called St. Andrews. But this is the fake
one. It's a big deal in Boca but I would love to get over there
where you are and go to the real St Andrews
James Taylor
comm into all the best great speaking to you today.
Walter Bond
awesome thank you James.
James Taylor
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